Journals of the Senate
50 Elizabeth II, A.D. 2001, Canada
Journals of the Senate
1st Session, 37th Parliament
Issue 59
Wednesday, October 17, 2001
1:30 p.m.
The Honourable Rose-Marie Losier-Cool, Speaker pro tempore
The Members convened were:
The Honourable Senators
Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, Austin, Bacon, Beaudoin, Biron, Bolduc, Bryden, Buchanan, Callbeck, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Christensen, Cochrane, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, Cordy, Day, De Bané, Di Nino, Doody, Eyton, Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Finestone, Finnerty, Fitzpatrick, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, Gill, Grafstein, Gustafson, Hervieux-Payette, Johnson, Joyal, Kelleher, Kenny, Kinsella, Kolber, Kroft, Lapointe, Léger, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mahovlich, Milne, Moore, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, Phalen, Pitfield, Poulin (Charette), Poy, Rivest, Robichaud, Rompkey, Setlakwe, Sibbeston, Sparrow, Spivak, St. Germain, Stollery, Stratton, Tkachuk, Tunney, Watt, Wiebe
The Members in attendance to business were:
The Honourable Senators
Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, Austin, Bacon, Beaudoin, Biron, Bolduc, Bryden, Buchanan, Callbeck, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Christensen, Cochrane, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, Cordy, Day, De Bané, Di Nino, Doody, Eyton, Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Finestone, Finnerty, Fitzpatrick, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, Gill, Grafstein, Gustafson, Hervieux-Payette, Johnson, Joyal, Kelleher, Kenny, *Keon, Kinsella, *Kirby, Kolber, Kroft, Lapointe, *LeBreton, Léger, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mahovlich, Milne, Moore, *Morin, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, *Pearson, *Pépin, Phalen, Pitfield, Poulin (Charette), Poy, Rivest, Robichaud, *Roche, Rompkey, Setlakwe, Sibbeston, Sparrow, Spivak, St. Germain, Stollery, Stratton, Tkachuk, Tunney, Watt, Wiebe
PRAYERS
SENATORS' STATEMENTS
Some Honourable Senators made statements.
DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS
Government Notices of Motions
With leave of the Senate,
The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Milne:
That when the Senate adjourns today, it do stand adjourned until tomorrow, Thursday, October 18, 2001, at 1:30 p.m.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Presentation of Petitions
The Honourable Senator Milne presented petitions:
Of Residents of Canada concerning the Statistics Act
(census records).
ORDERS OF THE DAY
GOVERNMENT BUSINESS
Bills
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Poulin, seconded by the Honourable Senator Callbeck, for the second reading of Bill S-31, An Act to implement agreements, conventions and protocols concluded between Canada and Slovenia, Ecuador, Venezuela, Peru, Senegal, the Czech Republic, the Slovak Republic and Germany for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Bill was then read the second time.
The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Léger, that the Bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Motions
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
The Honourable Senator Carstairs, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Milne:
That a special committee of the Senate be appointed to examine the subject matter of Bill C-36, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Official Secrets Act, the Canada Evidence Act, the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) Act and other Acts, and to enact measures respecting the registration of charities, in order to combat terrorism, in advance of the said Bill coming before the Senate;
That the Bill be referred to the said special committee in due course;
That the following Senators be appointed to serve on the Special Committee: namely the Honourable Senators Andreychuk, Bacon, Beaudoin, Fairbairn, Fraser, Furey, Jaffer, Kelleher, Kenny, Murray, Stollery and Tkachuk, and that four members constitute a quorum;
That the committee have power to send for persons, papers and records, to examine witnesses, to report from time to time and to print such papers and evidence from day to day as may be ordered by the committee;
That the committee have power to sit during sittings and adjournments of the Senate;
That the committee have power to authorize television and radio broadcasting, as it deems appropriate, of any or all of its proceedings;
That the committee have power to retain the services of professional, clerical, stenographic and such other staff as deemed advisable by the committee; and
That the committee be permitted, notwithstanding usual practices, to deposit any report related to its study of the subject-matter of the Bill with the Clerk of the Senate, if the Senate is not then sitting, and that any report so deposited be deemed to have been tabled in the Chamber.
After debate,
In amendment, the Honourable Senator Kinsella moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Stratton, that the motion be amended by adding after the first paragraph the following:
"That the committee in its examination shall inter alia explore the protection of human rights and civil liberties in the application of this Act;''.
The question being put on the motion in amendment, it was adopted.
The Senate resumed debate on the motion, as amended, of the Honourable Senator Carstairs, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Milne:
That a special committee of the Senate be appointed to examine the subject matter of Bill C-36, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Official Secrets Act, the Canada Evidence Act, the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) Act and other Acts, and to enact measures respecting the registration of charities, in order to combat terrorism, in advance of the said Bill coming before the Senate;
That the committee in its examination shall inter alia explore the protection of human rights and civil liberties in the application of this Act;
That the Bill be referred to the said special committee in due course;
That the following Senators be appointed to serve on the Special Committee: namely the Honourable Senators Andreychuk, Bacon, Beaudoin, Fairbairn, P.C., Fraser, Furey, Jaffer, Kelleher, P.C, Kenny, Murray, P.C. Stollery and Tkachuk, and that four members constitute a quorum;
That the committee have power to send for persons, papers and records, to examine witnesses, to report from time to time and to print such papers and evidence from day to day as may be ordered by the committee;
That the committee have power to sit during sittings and adjournments of the Senate;
That the committee have power to authorize television and radio broadcasting, as it deems appropriate, of any or all of its proceedings;
That the committee have power to retain the services of professional, clerical, stenographic and such other staff as deemed advisable by the committee; and
That the committee be permitted, notwithstanding usual practices, to deposit any report related to its study of the subject-matter of the Bill with the Clerk of the Senate, if the Senate is not then sitting, and that any report so deposited be deemed to have been tabled in the Chamber.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, as amended, it was adopted on division.
OTHER BUSINESS
Senate Public Bills
Orders No. 1 to 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Cools, seconded by the Honourable Senator Wiebe, for the second reading of Bill S-9, An Act to remove certain doubts regarding the meaning of marriage.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Wiebe for the Honourable Senator Banks moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Maheu, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
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Ordered, That all remaining Orders be postponed until the next sitting.
REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):
Report of the Federal Bridge Corporation Limited, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1).—Sessional Paper No. 1/37-504.
Reports of the Millennium Bureau of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/37-505.
Copy of Order in Council P.C. 2001-0254, dated February 22, 2001, concerning the Regulations amending the United Nations Afghanistan Regulations, pursuant to the United Nations Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. U-2, sbs. 4(1).—Sessional Paper No. 1/37-506.
Copy of Order In Council P.C. 2001-1716, dated October 2, 2001, concerning the United Nations Suppression of Terrorism Regulations, pursuant to the United Nations Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. U-2, sbs. 4(1).—Sessional Paper No. 1/37- 507.
Report on the implementation of the Convention on combating bribery of foreign public officials in international business transactions, and the enforcement of the Corruption of Foreign Public Officials Act, pursuant to the Corruption of Foreign Public Officials Act, S.C. 1998, c. 34, s. 12.—Sessional Paper No. 1/37-508.
Report of the National Research Council of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the National Research Council Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. N015, s. 17.—Sessional Paper No. 1/37-509.
Report of the Cape Breton Growth Fund Corporation, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1).—Sessional Paper No. 1/37-510.
ADJOURNMENT
The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Phalen:
That the Senate do now adjourn.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
(Accordingly, at 3:47 p.m. the Senate was continued until 1:30 p.m. tomorrow.)
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Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)
Standing Senate Committee on Fisheries
The name of the Honourable Senator Tunney added to the membership (October 16).
The name of the Honourable Senator Phalen substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Moore (October 17).
Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry
The name of the Honourable Senator Hubley substituted for that of the Honourable Senator LaPierre (October 17).
The name of the Honourable Senator Day added to the membership (October 17).
Standing Senate Committee on Defence and Security
The name of the Honourable Senator Day substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Pépin (October 17).
Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce
The name of the Honourable Senator Fitzpatrick substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Wiebe (October 17).
Standing Senate Committee on National Finance
The name of the Honourable Senator Day substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Finnerty (October 17).
Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications
The names of the Honourable Senators Biron, Chalifoux, Maheu and Phalen substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Fitzpatrick, Gill, LaPierre and Morin (October 17).
Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages
The name of the Honourable Senator Léger added to the membership (October 17).